watching the twitch and reading this sounds kind of like a cash grab.

we have to purchase new material while the old become obsolete?

existing structures / purchases can't be upgraded or transitioned into the new system?

for those purchases that have already been made and not deployed.. players are S.O.L?

A transition period is nice but, all said and done, it seems like scrap the old and buy the new.

Erm.. I did. But what I haven't seen explicitly said is whether the user that deploys the structure can be a solo player or indeed can't be. Just seeking a clarification.

Please consider:

If the owner of containers that are injected into space (as a result of structure destruction) does not retrieve them WITHIN A PERIOD OF TIME, these containers should become scannable and hackable. This will provide additional and logical game play. The destroyed structure will become a beacon of possible loots to be had for explores as we travel from system to system.

One important question.

Today one of the reason we attack other towers is loot (in WH piniata POS can have anything from few bill to 100 bil)

But we are now told that new system will somehow separate people assets from Struckture Fitting and only drop fitting???

My question is: will we still have loot from structures smaller than station?

Any chance for the veterans amongst us to move all stuff locked up and gathered over the years in multiple 0.0 outposts, to be moved to the closest low sec station? I got tons of stuff all over 0.0 and no chance to get to it anymore now. Many amongst us must be in this situation

PS: great stuff

Have some loot drop and some send to the nearest NPC station?

So i have two simple questions

1 - There has been alot of talk coming out of the round table with regards to replacement or reimbursement for Towers/mods/structures/BPC, however nothing has been said about Stations. Will stations be replaced via isk or the new structures. Or as it seems is being hinted but not outright said, will they just become obsolete and thus destroyable leaving alliances out of pocket?

2 - There is really only one major benefit to Sov holding, reduced fuel bills. Will the new structures have this applied or did CCP just sneak it out without anyone actually being aware.

Just a question.

Where will be the room for part time players with or within a corp?

With the current sov system and stations it is highly possible that your stuff is still accessible if you login next weekend.
With the new sov system and destructible big containers it is highly possible that your stuff isn't accessible next weekend and blown up the week after.
Therefore part time players can't have reasonable stuff in sov null anymore including any kind of industrial activity.

You shouldn't do a reimbursement plan based on the supposed ISK value of structures like you did with the data interfaces that were removed from industry. We and probably a lot of other people were severely short-changed on the reimbursement values for those interfaces.

I would suggest a reimbursement of all the materials needed to actually construct the structures so all the planetary interaction derived materials and everything else in the case of outposts.

Another thought. It would be nice to have racial types kept for the POSes and outposts.

Thank you for your sarcasm which adds nothing to the discussion. As for Capital Assembly Array, I am just wondering if there is another announcement coming down the pipe regarding capital ships in high-sec. And for the medium assembly array, is there a problem with me pointing out a possible mistake in a mockup? The whole point of the mockup is to convey how the new structure will work. What is wrong with asking for clarification when one data point contradicts with another one? If CCP wants to give us an idea on how things will work with mockups and someone notices something contradictory, I figure CCP would want to know in order to change it so they can present correct info. I don't know why you are so butt hurt by the question that you need to get sarcastic and imply that you are so much smarter.

No, if you don't keep the window then getting into a ship, or asking someone to move over so you can look out the one small window or undocking just to see what's going on outside is simply stupid. That humans have forgotten how to make windows 23,000 yeas in the future is simply personally unacceptable to me. The POS FF give us (1) an amazing 'window' AND (2) Forcefields are a std of almost ALL SF, and just FYI, I have been ingame over 4 years, I have lived in POSes for at least 3.5 years of that time.

I have no issue whatsoever with what CCP is attempting with POS & Structure changes, it needs doing, badly. But while I appreciate consistency, please keep in mind IRL we have different equipment for different environments... you don't setup and ingloo in the Bahamas and you wouldn't try to live in a grass hut in Antarctica. Even forts built in polar climates are basically different from forts built in equatorial climes... and so it should be in EVE also. WSpace is not Empire space and, having lived in botth I can tell you from experience, it is NOT Nullsec no matter what the number at the top left says... it is inherently DIFFERENT and those differences must be taken into account or you end up forcing unbalanced and unpleasant gameplay on players.

You have given me my second strongest argument for keeping the FF and not havinf the Entosis Link work on POSes in WSpace... "...no way a small high sec, low sec or WH corp is going to be able to cover time periods like Null alliances will be able to."

We are NOT Sov holders... we do NOT need Sov mechanics in WSpace... just make a variant of the Std POS and the XL POS that are balanced towards the gameplay that is inherent in Anoikis.

Not that I expect this, when CCP decided to change Scanning they really screwed us in Anoikis... I am pretty sure this will be the same.

service modules need to be flat out better for sov owners. and we are not talking about fuel cost, we are talking about reward for the additional risk of putting something in low/null/wh vs putting something in highsec.

reduced fuel cost is a drop in the ocean here. we need to talk about giving a much bigger advantage here.

10% ME for lowsec, 20-25% for nullsec before it's actually worth to build something in null/low for export.

I personally like the current anchoring mechanic.
the way this is described makes me think that the new structures will be overly vulnerable because you are limited to 8 defenses. some places you need a deathstar with 12 Large pulse lasers and an array of supporting equipment just for defense, and only online the production modules you actually need at the moment.

in others you can leave just a little E-War up and be mostly fine as long as you check on it.

Point is that POS need to be more flexible then this model shows.

I do like the idea they fielded of having reppers on a structure.
I can see the use of having a triage pos, but I'd rather that exist under current mechanics similar to the use of guns/E-war.

I notice there is no "Structures: General" Thread. That is one for comments that cover all structures. Or should we use this thread for that?